tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post6214599453142054574..comments2023-06-14T10:33:15.008-04:00Comments on Shilton HaSechel שלטון השכל: Tisha B'AvShilton HaSechelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11445959470426455186noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-43184929657959084362010-07-19T13:45:26.253-04:002010-07-19T13:45:26.253-04:00This is where reconstruction comes in... I would ...This is where reconstruction comes in... I would give up on Tisha b'Av (maybe I will) but I think of it as mourning for all the people who died rather than for the temple.Puzzledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12866127197554237039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-18701009716870641032010-07-19T12:57:20.858-04:002010-07-19T12:57:20.858-04:00>Did you forget about Chanukah? That was during...>Did you forget about Chanukah? That was during the 2nd Temple.<br /><br />A drop in the sea compared to the idolatry during the 1st Temple Era. <br /><br />>It is the false memory of a once perfect Judaism in the shtetls of Eastern Europe that is contributing to the radicalization of Chariedi Judaism.<br /><br />True but no one said every (a-)historical symbol is a good thing. <br /><br />Also the Chareidim actually believe it. <br /><br />>But seeing it as a day of mourning for Jewish tragedies can be a way to give the day real meaning.<br /><br />For that to work we have to change the obsolete liturgy.Shilton HaSechelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445959470426455186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-82717002443871546062010-07-19T11:40:55.239-04:002010-07-19T11:40:55.239-04:00> Second Temple Era
Okay at least there's n...> Second Temple Era<br />Okay at least there's no idol worship. YAY!<br /><br />Did you forget about Chanukah? That was during the 2nd Temple. And Herod himself wasn’t exactly a poster boy for religious Judaism, despite the fact that the pictures of the Beis HaMikdash we all pine for are of his version of the Temple.<br /><br />> It is the false - yet beautiful memory of a once perfect age that has contributed to Jewish survival throughout the eras and has culminated in the Jewish state (which I, Zionist that I am, think is a mostly good thing)<br /><br />It is the false memory of a once perfect Judaism in the shtetls of Eastern Europe that is contributing to the radicalization of Chariedi Judaism.<br /><br />> Anyone who says that Tisha B'Av is the day we mourn ALL Jewish tragedies is spewing BS.<br /><br />In a traditional sense, you’re right. But seeing it as a day of mourning for Jewish tragedies can be a way to give the day real meaning.<br /><br />> Who's fault is it that the Temple got destroyed?<br /><br />Well, it was the Jewish fighters trying to hold off the Romans who set the Beis HaMikdash on fire.G*3https://www.blogger.com/profile/06104739087560005056noreply@blogger.com