tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post939702944428348446..comments2023-06-14T10:33:15.008-04:00Comments on Shilton HaSechel שלטון השכל: Excuses Not QuestionsShilton HaSechelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11445959470426455186noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-72477336904808536262010-11-15T08:39:35.184-05:002010-11-15T08:39:35.184-05:00@ thinkingbochur
A majority of people who "...@ thinkingbochur <br /><br />A majority of people who "fry out" may be doing poorly in yeshiva. To me, that's an accusation against the yeshiva system. One would expect someone who is not adept at highly technical questions of textual interpretation (which generally are not essential to the modern world) in a foreign language for 10-14 hours a day, would do poorly in yeshiva. They then have few choices in the community which respects conformity.<br /><br />But, more important to this conversation, those people who "fry out" because they have philosophical, theological etc problems with religion, do not do poorly in yeshiva. They generally excel in yeshiva because they are smart, dedicated to education and using their minds. These kids, who try to think for themselves, are the greatest threat to the yeshiva system. It appears that the rabbis' only defense is to try to tar all "fry outs" as lazy, dumb or evil.JD4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-10096028104322423982010-11-11T08:52:07.734-05:002010-11-11T08:52:07.734-05:00I suspect that many rabbis do not want to engage i...I suspect that many rabbis do not want to engage in a rational q-and-a about Judaism because most of them are quite intelligent and probably know that there is no satisfactory answer to the questions. I know when I asked my rabbi in yeshiva about basic problems I had, he gave me the rote answers (which I already knew -- 600,000 at Har Sinai etc), with a knowing smile. When I pressed him he just shrugged his shoulders. Fortunately, he did not attack me for "looking for excuses" and I respect him for that (after all I couldn't expect him to say -- you're right, there's no rational reason to believe in this stuff).JD4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-38240056473742933382010-11-11T08:48:44.646-05:002010-11-11T08:48:44.646-05:00Correction: I meant to write that "an honest...Correction: I meant to write that "an honest person would NEVER reject the Torah..."<br /><br />Must be the yetzer hara at workJmgkfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-46000413088656944972010-11-11T08:47:26.356-05:002010-11-11T08:47:26.356-05:00Don't you people know that honest person would...Don't you people know that honest person would ever reject the Torah unless he or she (am I allowed to mention women?) had been infected by secular culture and the yetzer hara. If a person has questions about HaShem, it's a sure sign you are a hedonist who is just looking for an excuse to indulge your desire for pleasure in this world (which is evil even though it was made by HaShem and HaShem said it was "tov m'od").Jmgkfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7001184305805559914.post-21007882733924018632010-11-11T08:25:37.812-05:002010-11-11T08:25:37.812-05:00No doubt he wanted to ensure these kids completely...No doubt he wanted to ensure these kids completely lose respect for Rabbonim and never listen to a Rav ever again. I feel bad for the Kiruv guy who tried to bring them in, he must have left feeling like a fool...Chaynobodynoreply@blogger.com