Monday, 7 June 2010

Why Orthodox Reform Might Only Work In Israel

I was reading this

and this

(if you can read Hebrew read the full articles they are excellent)

The following is pure speculation based on my inadequate knowledge of the subject. Half of what I say may be completely wrong so feel free to criticize (or bring supporting statistics/details)

Three contrasts between Israeli Orthodoxy and American Orthodoxy:
1. In Israel there is hardly any Conservative or Reform presence. As far as I know nobody in the religious world is scared at all by them.

However in America there is a fear of the more left wing elements of Orthdoxy becoming Conservative

2. In Israel the Chareidim are so off the wall that their is a clear divide between Religious (Dati) and Chareidi

In America there is a blur between RWMO and LWUO. Many Modern Orthodox people respect Chareidim, which is why there is such a leakage of Modern Orthodox to Ultra-Orthodox.

In Israel people like Rav Bigman and Elchanan Shiloh are trying to create a certain amount of reform in Orthodoxy. Similar efforts in the United States would fail, if I'm judging correctly, because of the reasons stated above.

1. Too much reform (which in American Orthodoxy is almost any reform) gets branded as "Conservatism". Look at the Orthodox response to the first Orthodox women Rabbi. I believe that much of this fear stems from a fear that the Left Wing of Orthodoxy is slipping into Conservatism.

In Israel however their is no real competing movement to the left to be afraid of.

Now of course their is always right wing criticism of the left, even in Israel but I feel that it is far less than in America where Modern Orthodoxy feels a bit threatened by the Conservative movement.

2. The American Orthodox care to a certain extent what Chareidim think about them.

In Israel religious Jews are not really worried what Chareidim think (especially because Chareidim ditch the army which is a big no no in Religious Zionist circles.)

Maybe a reformed Orthodoxy will work in Israel but I doubt in America.

טובה הארץ מאד מאד
The Land is Very Very Good